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Hello and welcome to meters pod
interviews episode one. I

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recently had a chance to sit
down talk with Josh Finney and

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Patrick McElroy. Together. They
are wild stallions just getting

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their team cards you, Josh and
Patrick are working on a graphic

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novel called a case file Arkham.
Set in the mid 1940s. case file

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Arkham follows Hank Flynn, a
down on his luck private eyes

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back from the war and now
working the main streets the

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most cursed city on Earth.
Arkham, Massachusetts, and

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Things only get worse for Flynn
when a wealthy uptown socialite

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hires him to track down an
artist by the name of Pikmin.

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What begins is a simple missing
persons case leads Flynn down a

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dark path of flesh eating goals,
vengeful witches and a notorious

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Innsmouth. Mafia. Everything
about this book looks amazing.

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But enough of me talking about
it. Let's hear from the creators

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themselves.

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Hey, how are you guys doing
tonight?

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Very well. How are you? Doing

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great doing great. Why don't you
go ahead and introduce

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yourselves one by one and tell
us a little bit about case file

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Arkham.

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Josh Kerr to kick it off.

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Okay. My name is Josh Finney.
I'm the writer behind case file

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Arkham. I've done World War
kaiju, titanium, rain and

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utopia. It's in the past and
I've also done some short

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stories in the pros world as
well.

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And I'm Patrick McAvoy. I'm
doing the art on case file

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Arkham. And let's see I've
worked with Josh on World War

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kaiju. And worked earlier with
our Kea doing a book called

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Starkweather immortal another
graphic novel. Another graphic

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novel I just did last year
called The Nain Rouge sort of a

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young adult book. And other than
that, though, I'm more of an

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illustrator has been my living
for the last 15 years or so. I

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do illustration. And I also do
multimedia work, animation, art

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directing, that kind of thing
for for games and educational

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products. And I've I could go on
and on. I've worked on different

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role playing games and
collectible card games, Call of

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Cthulhu game and the game of
thrones card game and I was on

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contract with Marvel for a
couple of years doing work for

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their marketing division.

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I always like to say, I like
this, I always like to say the

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Patrick is the one of your
favorite artists, you just don't

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know his name, right? Chances
are if you like comics Cthulhu

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or just about any role playing
property, you probably own

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multiple pieces of his art. You
just never knew it.

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But when I was Google stalking
Patrick, I noticed I've seen a

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lot of his work before knows
name, but now I got him on get

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him on the phone. So with case
file Arkham Are you both working

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on the art and story? Are you
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collaborating? Or is it kind of
like, you know, one of us one

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department ones the other and
you just get together? Or how's

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the workload split up?

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Well, with World War kaiju, I
had an extremely specific vision

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for that world that was kind of
my baby that would, you know, we

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had a lot of back and forth and
a lot of collaboration. But I

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was very hands on with this one,
I would say it's a very much a

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5050 creation, I may be writing
it, but it is our creation.

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Patrick has been very, very
hands on with the plot and just

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dialogue and ideas. On the other
hand, I've decided to take a

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step back and just let him kind
of control the way it looks.

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Which is kind of fun. Although
on World War Casio is really

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great. If anybody goes online
looks these up, you'll find

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they're in a completely
different style. World War kg

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was a painted book. It's more
like the illustration work I

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usually do. And Josh did a lot
of the art assisting on that.

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And one could say he did these
fantastic 3d cities and things

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for backgrounds and other
textures that I would map on to

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3d primitives and very
collaborative and you know, when

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you do a book of that scope, and
yeah, in that extensive style,

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you're really just one person
has a hard time doing it without

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some help. And Josh is able to
step right in because he's a

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graphics professional as well.

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Yeah, I did a lot of the graphic
design on that book. So like,

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anytime there was a newspaper or
a document or a map, I did it to

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things like that. And in fact,
there's as a challenge to people

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have the book there's one full
page that Josh did Oh yeah, I

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didn't do and so people should
guess which one that is

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flipped through trying to figure
it out right.

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And it's not gonna be as easy as
you might think. Because I kept

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changing styles up through them.
Oh, yeah, but Josh did one that

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actually looks like I could have
done it. And he did it

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really looked through the sample
pages of World War guides you

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and I really liked how it had a
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and made it look like the old
Godzilla movies.

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Yeah, I was one of one of the
visions and one of the reasons

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it was so critical that we get
Patrick is we needed that that

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really overblown, oversaturated
Technicolor look of the era and

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he just nailed it. Yeah, yeah.

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And and of course, the look.
Thank you. And of course, the

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look of guys and giant rubber.
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had to look like they were
actually guys in costumes.

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Go into a case file Arkham. I
noticed on the Kickstarter page,

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that it says that you want it to
be all one graphic novel. And if

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you reach a stretch goals, it'll
be even even longer graphic

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novel. Are you planning on
taking the story? And extending

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it out into maybe a series or a
series of graphic novels? Or is

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this going to be a one shot?

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Oh, no ABS? Absolutely, we are
going to want to turn this into

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a series of graphic novels.
It's, it's around a character

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Hank Flynn who we really want to
keep going with for a while.

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I think it's such a great name.

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He's a private eye who works
cases in the town of Arkham,

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which, you know, anybody who's
read Lovecraft pretty much knows

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this the the center of all evil.
And we both really have an

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affinity for the film noir
aesthetic and that hardboiled

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era. And then, and we both
really loved Lovecraft. So it

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seemed like a fantastic way once
we zeroed in on you know, this

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was going to be about this.
Private I hardboiled private ins

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world, which we started zeroing
in on that we said, Yeah, we

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could do, we could do dozens of
stories. Yeah.

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Ideally, we'd like to do one one
of these books a year, and it

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would each book could be an
individual case. And so this

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first one is kind of revolving
around Pikmin. He's hired to

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find this missing artist. But
you know, future plots include,

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you know, he gets hired by a man
who's lost his memory for five

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years and Flynn is now Hank
Flynn is now trying to piece

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together and of course, it turns
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okay, you know,

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there's one where he ends up
going to end Smith and dealing

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with the Innsmouth mob, we
actually there's, that's the

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overarching thing that ties them
all together as he keeps having

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these visions of daggone. But I
don't want to get into that

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guy. You don't want to go too
far. You got to get people to

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want to get the book. Don't give
it all away spoilers.

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But it's amazing how easy once
we once we got into the swing of

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it, it the Lovecraft world fits
really easily into the whole

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film noir aesthetic. Yeah. And I
added some flourishes that are a

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little more like the, you know,
German expressionist silent film

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era, you know, and, of course,
the, the film noir directors

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were really influenced by that
as well. So it's not really a

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great stretch, right? So
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nicely with Lovecraft.

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Well, that opening sequence that
we have on the website and on

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the Kickstarter, with the Google
chasing the capital, there's a

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bit of am and Nosferatu in some
of those shots. I see it.

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Absolutely. Oh, and it's a
totally different style for both

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of us. Really, Josh has never,
you know, indulged in a more

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hardboiled dialogue style. And I
have only briefly worked in

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black and white line work. And
definitely not in this sort of

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horror, Stark blacks. And, you
know, crazy details on the

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bricks and kind of things like
that style. So it's fun, in a

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way because we're both a little
out of our comfort zone that

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we've we've both come up with.
So that's another kind of

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exciting aspect of all this,

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but it's also things we both
love intently, so it's not like

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it's that much out of the
comfort zone. I mean, we enjoy

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every second of it.

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Exact trying something new is
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the closest I ever got to Noir
is my first book and a lot of

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the stories I've written are are
hard cyberpunk, but that's not

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quite new. RSF

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would you want to live in the
world? that you're making for

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case file Arkham Why or why not?

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I you know what? I would accept
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ultimately Lovecrafts universe
and the level of Bleak that's

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involved craft get to you, when
you're realizing, you know,

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dealing with Cenobites is more
uplifting, more hopeful.

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So you're saying no, which is
the correct answer.

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I'd live in World War kg. That'd
be fun. But this and No, no, I

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wouldn't.

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And I would want to live in a
world where they had made this

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sort of genre into movies in the
1940s. So that we had Humphrey

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Bogart starring and Cat people
or something. So I want to live

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in that world and probably want
to live in it in 1947.

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Imagine where cinema would be
today. If that's what it was

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back then. Yeah.

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Yeah, oh, I can imagine one of
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directors in a in a, you know, a
big studio picking up say, the,

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the Lovecraft library and say,
We're gonna make movies with

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this guy stuff. And oh, man,

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I'd love to have a zoo with all
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from the mountains of madness.
The elegant things? Yes, the

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elder things I hadn't I was
blinking. Just to see them.

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Yeah, I've got an image in my
head because I never went and

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looked up any images of what
other people have, have

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interpreted the mass, but I've
got you know, this solid image

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in my head. I'd love to see that
as a real thing, but not be near

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one, you know. Kind of a zoo
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tranquilizers or something.

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But believe it or not, I did do
a book a few years back, gosh,

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over five years back now for
Lovecraft Necronomicon primer by

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who was a Llewellyn publishing.
And it is available in

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bookstores everywhere. I don't
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other than Amazon these days.
That was fun because I got to

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illustrate, gosh, like 20 or
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creatures each chapter was about
a different creature.

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Have you all seen the movie
Battle Royale?

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You know what? I've read quite a
bit of the comics and I saw half

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the movie on Netflix and then I
had to I forgot why I didn't get

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to finish it.

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But you're familiar with the
concept essentially Yeah. Hunger

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Games this is we're getting to
the to the real meat of the

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interview here in a battle
royale situation between all the

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fast food and cereal mascots who
would win and why

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I knew somebody was gonna ask
this eventually.

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Cereal mascots. Yeah, okay.

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Can't okay, right off the top. I
mean, I gotta cut to the chase

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here. You can't count out Count
Chocula is the only vampire in

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the group. But on the other
hand, I would think isn't isn't

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a carrot. Kind of like wood. I
don't know if you stuck a

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vampire through the heart with a
carrot. But in that case, you

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know Jack from the jack in the
box. He's got the pointy carrot

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nose. And I think he might be
able to take out Count Chocula

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Yeah, if he's just so I've given
us a lot of thought. Ya know

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if he's a if it's a Japanese
made production, Japanese based

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reality? Yeah, I think Jack
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strictly because he knows he
seems to be on top of

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everything. And he's got the
weird head. Now if it was a

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United States modern day
production. If this was a US

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type film, it has to be the
Windies mascot chick because

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it's a girl and right now you
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what's selling with the kids.
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kids that break up break up into
a team windy and team Chocula Oh

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well yeah, cuz the vampire
exactly.

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I don't even know.

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They could have forgiven
forbidden love steak.

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Oh, yeah, you gotta have the
forbidden loving or the love

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triangle.

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Tony the Tiger has has been
dumped by Wendy and now he's

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there. hooks up with a bad boy
Count Chocula This is

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practically writing

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blueberry He's already dead I
love the idea of a whole island

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of mascots killing each other on
that that's worthy of just a one

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shot book on its on its own.

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Just change the mascots just
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with any legal issues. So

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you can write that as one of
them as a bizarro story, right?

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Now is this I have to interview
the interviewer? Is this a

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question? You've asked other
people before? Did you save it

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up for us?

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This is my first interview. Oh,
I've never had that interview

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before. You missed that part of
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throwing spitballs at you.

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Yeah, this is this is my first
interview. Ever.

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You're doing great so far. Oh,
great. Great. That's

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good to hear. Good to hear.
Okay, another serious one. And

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I've asked this over many beers
with many friends. What

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superpower would you have if you
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Hmm, that's a tough one.

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And don't think about
consequences like you know, the

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whole if you could time travel
you might call it you know,

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causality and don't worry about
that stuff. We're just we're

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making it easy.

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This is an X Men style power
where you have one specialty

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power it's not a Superman suite
of powers situation. Yeah,

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right.

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Right.

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Yeah. Not sleeping sounds pretty
good. Get a lot more done that

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way or not aging would be nice.
Yes.

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Not aging I think is a good one.
Yeah. It works out well for lots

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of villains at least. Like,
like, no DC, you've got Raj al

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Ghul and savage Vandal Savage.
Course he's got the sweet of

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Paris. He's super stressed. On

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the other hand, if we're talking
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powers that really don't have a
lot of value, but they're just

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there. I think we're all at that
point where every once awhile

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you just want to be able to make
somebody's head explode through

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the internet.

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Yes. scalings

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when you said yes. You said
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like you were thinking matter
either lead or Arm Fall Off Boy.

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Actually, a character showed up
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seriously.

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And then that always leads to
the next question, Hero or

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villain?

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Oh, I didn't answer really but I
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because I think it's not a very
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But after a while, it really
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make small investments and
everything and just see which

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ones pay out.

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Exactly. Also, I'll be upfront
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approached that I am 40 now and
you start thinking I'm like

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gonna get all the all the
stories I want done in time. I

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mean, that actually weighs on me
now. I used to you don't think

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about it but it actually does
weigh on me now.

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You know what that's a good
argument for matter eater lad

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because as we get older we can't
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Okay, so the not a hero or
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All of the great not aging
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But I would I would think I'd at
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old d&d alignments

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I would actually I would be the
I would be the asshole you don't

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want but the asshole you need.
Right? So not quite a hero of

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it. But the asshole you need

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the complete asshole with the
heart of gold. I'd like to build

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an asshole. How can folks get a
hold of you on the web? Or at

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least follow you? I know you've
got the Kickstarter. I'm going

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to be linking to your
Kickstarter and any other

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websites that you want me to
link to in the show notes. But

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anything else that Joel wanted
to plug while you're here or any

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websites you wanted to mention
Twitter, Twitter accounts,

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anything?

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Well, actually, at this point,
after my Facebook experiences,

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I've just come to the conclusion
maybe I shouldn't encourage

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people to follow me.

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Follow me I'm much more
politically

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Yeah, exactly. You're more
charismatic than man. I've just

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stopped caring. But as far as
finding the I'd say the best

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thing to do right now is go to
the 01 website 01 Publishing

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website, which has has a lot of
help a lot of my books available

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01 publishing.com I'd also like
to plug everything I've done,

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please, please, please go by
World War guide, you go by

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utopia, it's which is the
cyberpunk story. And if there

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it's still in print, titanium
rain, Patrick,

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those are good things. You know
what I first want to plug the

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concept of stretch goals? Oh,

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yes, thank you. For ego.

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Because case file Arkham is, by
the time this comes out, I've

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got my fingers crossed that
we're going to be past 100%

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funded on Kickstarter, which is
absolutely phenomenal. But we

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have stretch goals. 8000 is our
minimum for which we will do the

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most awesome graphic novel, I
think, yes, I think anybody's

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ever read. But it could be even
better. Because at $11,000. If

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we get up to 11,000, we're going
to add 20 pages of content for

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no extra charge. Yes. And if we
make it to 14,000, we're going

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to double the content, for
instance, search. If somehow

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some wonderful person came in
and said 19,000 got us up to

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$19,000, we would triple the
size of the book.

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And the way that it works is
8000 will get us half the book

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three. Yeah, we got up to
11,000, we get the whole thing

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in one and done whole thing,
which is what we really want.

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And if we go into 19,000, we can
include some cutscenes. A lot of

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background material, extra art
from Patrick,

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probably an extra short story in
there. You know, lots of things,

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all this stuff we could do as

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well. We're toying with
publishing, the original Pitmans

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model will include the original
Pitmans model with some

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illustrations from Patrick
possibly.

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Yeah, so. So those are really
important. 14,000 is ideally

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where we'd like to get and that
would be wonderful. It's, it's

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6000 over our initial goal. But
we've got a couple of weeks to

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make it. And I'd like to ask
anyone who's thinking of backing

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the project or already has
backed it to think about how

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groovy it would be at twice the
length and try to get all your

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friends to come on board. You
know, again, get an extra copy

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for your friends. You never can
tell when you're going to need

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one. I'm sure most of the people
out there have friends. I used

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to have some.

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Yeah, I started a podcast.

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But yeah, that's the main thing
I would want to plug. And we're

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working with you that I worked
on with Josh and cat, the

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publisher of 01. Also, the name
rich. The other graphic. I did

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two graphic novels last year,
how good is life? That one's

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more for kids. It's not a swear
word in it. And it's a really

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fun one. And then I do a podcast
called The Ninja mountain

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podcast, where I'm one of a
group of hosts from all over the

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world. And we are talking about
illustration every week. No, we

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don't. We used to do it every
week. Now we do it whenever we

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feel like it because we're also
busy. And then of course my

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website is make a flow
graphics.com

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All right. Yeah, I call my
podcast sometimes weekly

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podcast.

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It's a great name. Yeah, I like
that

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sometimes weekly podcast but um,
16 days, 16 days to go as of

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this recording, I'd love to see
extra artwork in the back of the

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book. So folks, get out there.
Click that back this project

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button. Tell all your friends
like like they were saying get a

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get a copy for your friends. You
never know. You forget a

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birthday comes up. You can have
it sitting there. Ready to go

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for him? I think if you're
listening to this podcast

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anyway, you're into this type of
fiction and your friends

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probably are two I'm looking at
are we it's just fantastic.

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We've got an incentive that I
think every Lovecraft fan needs.

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And that is a shot glass from an
authentic Innsmouth pub. The

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dive.

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Yes, Josh. Josh created a
fantastic for the dive. And it's

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got to be seen to be believed.

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Yes. I love it.

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You're still gonna ask us what
Cthulhu Therefore,

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oh yes. Why did I skip them?
Yes. What do you think? Cthulhu

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tastes like?

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Well I actually put some thought
into this since I had some

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warning beforehand and I'm going
to say that either he tastes

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like the deep dark pit of
despair where it's filled with

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dark matter or or waffle house
or worry tastes like yellow cake

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washed down with a glass of
heavy water

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well, I don't know I guess I
guess if you mix him with peanut

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butter at dark creature who
wants to sell it swallow your

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soul but sticks to the roof of
your mouth?

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I was just thinking calamari

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Yeah, I'm gonna be getting one
of these the dive window

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stickers. This is fantastic.

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We have an ongoing joke cat and
I that every once in a while

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this will come up that we keep
imagining what a love prep

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themed sushi restaurant would
have on its menu.

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Well, what have you come up
with?

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Oh, well, you know, they're the
rules themselves wouldn't sound

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right, you know, just Cthulhu
roll Star Spawn Roll Deep one

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roll. But what would we actually
make the rolls out of so of

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course there would be the Kung
Fu one would be the calamari.

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Right, the tendrils coming out
and then I don't know for a deep

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one probably would be the
equivalent to What's the capital

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roll.

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I imagined deep ones tastes a
lot like hamachi. And that's why

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you see so few baby deep ones
because people are always

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harvesting the row.

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We've seen a few reaction to the
word hide you themed roles. So

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why not low prep themed rolls a
natural fit, it

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fits perfectly.

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I now want to have a deep one
row roll with a daggone egg on

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top. All right, we've made the
audience angry. Leave them

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wanting more.

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Well, all right. Well,

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that's that's all I have for you
guys. Thanks for coming on me.

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despod being the inaugural
interviews episode for me.

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despod. I appreciate you both
taking the time to come on the

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show.

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It was good meeting you, David.
Yes. Yeah. All right. Well,

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thank you very much support case
file Arkham. And I don't know

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rock on.

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To have a sign off. I normally
just say we'll see you next time

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folks,

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and be excellent to each other.
Right

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in the dark one, take your soul.

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I really had a great time
talking with these guys, as well

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as a little bit of time with cat
from 01 Publishing. I also feel

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better backing a project when I
know that the creators are

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passionate about it. And as you
can tell from the interview they

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are please go check out their
Kickstarter, which is linked in

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the show notes for this episode
and consider back in case file

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Arkham Patrick, Josh, thanks for
coming on the show and I wish

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you guys the best of luck. Our
theme music comes to us courtesy

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of odd sprite check out more of
their work at odd sprite.com

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Muniz pod is released under
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commercial no derivatives
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change it or sell it but share
it all you like. We'll see you

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next time folks